Episode 13

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3rd Jun 2026

The SOSV Partner Who Says the Best Persuaders Are Introverts (And Why He Backs Them First) | Bill Liao

What if the science works, the market is ready, and your company still dies?

In this episode of Why Design, Bill Liao shares the belief that sits at the heart of his work: that the stories we co-believe in are our civilisation, and that the words you choose, the values you name, and the futures you speak aloud determine not just what you build, but whether it survives.

Rather than following a conventional path from engineer to executive, Bill built a career at the intersection of technology, persuasion, and purpose. From co-founding WeForest to investing in molecular medicine and microbiome hardware at SOSV, that decision led to a body of work shaped by one question: what actually kills companies?

This conversation is not about funding rounds or product-market fit. It is about the gap between doubt and conviction, why self-actualisation is a lie, and what happens when the air goes out of a room.

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What You'll Learn

  • ๐Ÿง  Why values alignment is worth more than skill when building the first team, and how to test for it in an interview
  • ๐Ÿ” How oxidised cholesterol causes four in ten human deaths, and why Cyclarityโ€™s molecule may change that
  • ๐Ÿ’ฌ Why replacing the word โ€œbutโ€ with โ€œandโ€ changes how people receive disagreement
  • ๐Ÿง˜ What intersubjective actualisation means, why it makes people happier than self-actualisation, and why AI makes it harder
  • ๐ŸŒฟ How to use Food Marble to identify which foods are disrupting your microbiome at home
  • โฐ Why the half-life of an insight is twenty-four hours, and the only way to extend it

Memorable Quotes

โ€œThe future that you set is the now that you get.โ€

โ€œThe only difference between persuasion and manipulation is intent.โ€

โ€œOne person on that narcissistic spectrum in a startup can destroy the work of any other ten people at once.โ€

โ€œItโ€™s not the persistent hallucination that gets under my skin. Itโ€™s the unbelievably sycophantic yet confident way in which it tells you the lies.โ€

โ€œThe half-life of an insight is 24 hours. And the only way to extend its half-life is to take action on it.โ€

6e. Resources and Links

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๐Ÿ”— Connect with Bill Liao โ†’ LinkedIn

About the Episode

Why Design is powered by Kodu, a specialist recruitment partner for the hardware and physical product development industry. Through honest conversations with designers, engineers and creative leaders, we explore not just what they build but why they build it; the beliefs, decisions and responsibility behind meaningful work.

About Kodu

Why Design is produced by Kodu, a recruitment partner for ambitious hardware brands, design consultancies and product-led start-ups. We help founders and leadership teams hire exceptional talent across industrial design, mechanical engineering and product leadership โ€” bringing structure and clarity to one of the hardest parts of scaling. ๐Ÿ”— Learn more โ†’ teamkodu.com

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About the Podcast

WHY DESIGN?
For people interested in physical product design and development
Why Design is a podcast exploring the stories behind hardware and physical product development. Hosted by Chris Whyte, founder of Kodu, the show dives into the journeys of founders, senior design leaders, and engineers shaping people and planet-friendly products.

Formerly "The Design Journeys Podcast", each episode uncovers pivotal career moments, lessons learned, and behind-the-scenes insights from industry experts. Whether youโ€™re a designer, engineer, or simply curious about how great hardware products come to life, Why Design offers real stories, actionable advice, and inspiration for anyone passionate about design and innovation.

Join us as we listen, learn, and connect through the stories that define the world of physical product development.

About your host

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Chris Whyte

Hi, I'm your host of Why Design? (Formerly "The Design Journeys Podcast")

I'm also the founder of Kodu - a specialist recruitment consultancy focused exclusively on physical product development. It's the people who I've met in my years in the industry that inspired me to start this podcast.

When I'm not hosting the podcast, I help physical product brands, start-ups and design consultancies identify, attract and hire the best product design & engineering talent ahead of their competitors, across the USA, UK and Europe ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

I focus exclusively on ๐ฉ๐ก๐ฒ๐ฌ๐ข๐œ๐š๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐๐ฎ๐œ๐ญ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ฅ๐จ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ (๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ฑ๐˜ด!)

๐ƒ๐ž๐ฌ๐ข๐ ๐ง & ๐ƒ๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ฅ๐จ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐‹๐ž๐š๐๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ:
โœ… Do you have high growth plans for your physical product development and engineering division?
โœ… Would you like to engage with and source those hard-to-find Design Engineers and Industrial Designers?
โœ… Are you spending too much time in the hiring process only to find that the talent doesn't match your expectations?

๐ƒ๐ž๐ฌ๐ข๐ ๐ง ๐„๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ, ๐Œ๐ž๐œ๐ก๐š๐ง๐ข๐œ๐š๐ฅ ๐„๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ˆ๐ง๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ข๐š๐ฅ ๐ƒ๐ž๐ฌ๐ข๐ ๐ง๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ:
โœ… Are you interested in joining an exciting start-up, design consultancy or technology brand?
โœ… Interested in honest, transparent advice as to which companies would be the best fit for you?

If you agree with any of the above, I know how you feel as I deal with people just like you every day.

I have successfully placed hundreds of design engineers, industrial designers, managers and directors into some of the world's most exciting technology brands, start-ups and consultancies.

My clients tell me they work with me because:

โญ I focus on long-term relationship building, not transactions
โญ I speak their language and understand their businesses and job roles
โญ Iโ€™m professional, yet friendly and very approachable
โญ My robust process significantly reduces time-to-hire

Iโ€™ve worked within consumer electronics, homewares, kitchen appliances, e-bikes, medical devices, gaming controllers, furniture, life-sciences, audio-equipment, vacuum cleaners and more!

Typically, I recruit the following roles:
๐Ÿ’ก VP Engineering
๐Ÿ’ก Engineering Director
๐Ÿ’ก Design Manager
๐Ÿ’ก Industrial Designer
๐Ÿ’ก Product Designer (products not apps!)
๐Ÿ’ก Product Design Engineer
๐Ÿ’ก Mechanical Design Engineer
๐Ÿ’ก Mechanical Engineer

Outside of work, I'm a wannabe rock star and a father to two teenagers. I support Manchester United and I'm terrible at FIFA/FC24 ๐Ÿค“

If you want to talk about my work or anything else, message me on here and I'll respond as soon as I can. Or you can reach me via:

chris@teamkodu.com

UK: +44 7538 928 518
US: +1 862 298 5088